The Fight for Democracy in the OTHER China: Macau | China Uncensored

The Fight for Democracy in the OTHER China: Macau | China Uncensored


These young people, what do they feel is the downside of having Beijing in charge? It makes us – It doesn’t make us stronger. I mean the people. It makes us in the fringe of the game of power. Hi, welcome to China Uncensored, I’m your host Chris Chappell. I’m here in Macau, China’s other Special Administrative Region. Like neighboring Hong Kong, Macau is supposed to be run under China’s One Country, Two Systems policy. And like with Hong Kong, the one country thing is definitely true, but the two systems part—less so. But unlike in Hong Kong, the democratic movement here in Macau is small. Most people seem content to let the Communist Party have its way in exchange for economic prosperity. You know that draconian anti-subversion law, Article 23, that half a million Hong Kongers protested
against in 2003? Well, in Macau, it was passed in 2009 without much fuss. Dissidents here, perhaps even more so than in Hong Kong, are fighting an uphill battle against the
status quo. So naturally, I just had to come here and talk with someone who shares my passion for uphill battles against the status quo. I sat down with Scott Chiang, President of the New Macau Association, a major pro-democracy NGO in Macau. Thanks for joining me, Scott. Why don’t you tell us about the New Macau Association. Well, it’s been one of the, uh, People says it’s a flagship democratic association in Macau. I don’t know. We’ve been here since the early 90s. It’s founded by a bunch of very passionate people who care about the future of Macau because it’s just before the handover and it’s just after what happened in ’89 in Tainanmen Square. And people genuinely concerned about our future under Chinese rule. Younger generation – I’m part of it – emerges in the recent years, and we want to make democrats – true democrats
– survive in Macau in the coming generations. So this organization has been around for a
long time. How have you seen the situation in Macau change since the handover in 1999? Macau has been in ruins in my childhood. The 90s is not one of our brightest hours. So the expectation was low in the time of
handover. This is in contrast to what happened in Hong
Kong. And soon after that, we have the opening up of the casino industry. And that, adding up with the lot people, tourists, coming from mainland China, gave us what is called the Golden Decade. Well now we have the GDP exceeding many developed countries. And yes, that set a lot of people very satisfied. And that also denied a lot of chance that
we actually had to fight for our own rights because people said, “Oh, we’re having a good time, so why don’t we shut up, and enjoy it while it lasts?” So people feel things are better now, under Communist rule? Naturally. And when they acknowledged the good times come from mainland tourists, and they will think again, when they try to
criticize China or the local government, even – because they know they have the endorsement
of Beijing, and they know that Macau’s fate, in their mind, is in the hands of the privileged – not in themselves. I have to say that, sadly, that’s the truth about many local people. The younger generation are feeling more strongly and strongly and strongly that they need to have a say in what goes on in
their town. So I still see hope in that. These young people, what do they feel is the downside of having Beijing in charge? It makes us – It doesn’t make us stronger. I mean the people. It makes us in the fringe of the game of power. That is one of the things we want to fight against. To change people’s minds and show them, no, when you fight it, you may stand a chance. But if you just sit home and wait, nothing will happen. So how does the political situation in Macau compare to Hong Kong? Macau has a very robust apolitical tradition, so to say, because not that people are not talking about
politics. They do, and they may know more than you might suspect. But they fail to connect what is in the news and what they need to do to change it. They may be very openly criticizing Obama. They may have a strong opinion against Trump. But they wouldn’t be the same open and vocal, criticizing personnel when it comes to local
politics. Yes, they may complain in local cafes about this and that, the traffic, housing price… But when you say, “Hey, why don’t we do something change
that?” They say, “Nah, it doesn’t work. I’ve been around more than you – longer
than you. And I know they don’t work.” That is the general sentiment, at least for the older generations. And that sentiment shaped the fate of Macau for the last decades. How about the younger generation? The younger generation? We are more… We are better educated. And many of my friends, when they have the chance to go abroad, and get a job there, they choose not to go back because they know Macau is not suitable for
them or for their offspring. But for those who return, I believe there is hope in them because when they had the chance, and they choose to return to their hometown, I expect more from them when it comes to, you know, changing the place for the better. So how has the implementation of Article 23
in 2009 changed Macau? Well, may I disappoint you in saying, “business
as usual?” Sometimes even we didn’t realize, oh, it’s already here for quite some years. Yeah, the thing is, when you talk to people
saying, “Oh, this law is bad because it diminished civil liberty, it gives the administration too much power, it makes criminal charges against, you know, freedom of speech -“ And people say, “what are you afraid of, if you’re not going to overthrow Beijing?” Nonetheless, it is harmful to civil society. But pretty much nobody listened, unlike in Hong Kong. So do you think Macau still has the One Country, Two System policy? In the first part, I’m pretty confident. And I understand you were recently interviewed
by police after a protest earlier this year. Which interview do you mean? How many? Are you concerned for your safety? I lost count, actually. Am I safe in this room? Should I be seen with you? Well, you film it. I guess that’s true. I should’ve thought about that. No, as I told you, we were relatively safe, or not worried by those up there because we are weak in comparison to our counterparts in Hong
Kong. We do not constitute a critical minority in
the house of legislation. And we don’t mobilize as much as those in
Hong Kong. And how do you feel about that perceived weakness? It is not just “perceived.” It is backed by hard fact. And that is both a blessing and curse, right? Being weak is not a good thing, but then it kinda protected you from a lot
of attacks. And oftentimes we think to ourselves, “Have we been doing the utmost that we can
do?” We are pretty much the leading democrats in
Macau. There’s not much competition there. Is it because we are doing good enough, or is it because it’s not a very attractive career path? Then we have to remind ourselves that we have
to do better than we have been. Being weak can be a motivation. What is your hope for the future of Macau? Well as I told you, the younger generation has a lot of potential. Information is easier to obtain now. It’s harder to keep your people blind and
deaf from what’s happening outside. And what’s happening in Hong Kong and Taiwan
has been a very, very, very visual alarm for people in Macau. Some people will take that as an alert, saying “we shall not move to that direction. Macau is no place for extremists.” But then younger generation will see opportunities, saying we may not need to do the same thing, but we can, nonetheless, take things into
our own hands instead of putting it up to somebody else. Well thank you again. That was Scott Chiang, president of the New Macau Association. Thank you – thank you.

100 thoughts on “The Fight for Democracy in the OTHER China: Macau | China Uncensored

  1. Please explain why people are not moving to China for the Socialism?   How do they keep all the Democrats from moving there?

  2. Watch my videos taken in Macau cuz I live here ! You can see some cool places ! Watch flip bottle to see the place full!

  3. Democracy doesn't work it's why even the most liberal SJW are asking for government censorship, oligarchies and one party elections.

  4. FREEDOM FOR TIBET!!
    FREEDOM FOR TAIWAN!!!
    FREEDOM FOR HONG KONG!!
    FREEDOM FOR CANTONIA!!!
    FREEDOM FOR EAST TURKISTAN!!
    FREEDOM FOR MONGOLIA!!
    FREEDOM FOR MACAU!!!
    FREEDOM FOR MANCHURIA!!
    DEATH TO CHINA FOREVER!!!
    Amen.

  5. hey Chris Chappel you should check out "why Trump should read India's playbook for Taunting China" by Foreign Plolicy it has to do with Taiwan. It's really good.

  6. Do a video about the documentary film Death By China, made by Trump's head of trade.
    One of the politicians you interviewed recently is also featured in the film. The film is on youtube.

  7. Macau should join the Republic of China, the only real, and legitimate government of China representing the interests of the Chinese people.

  8. So many people in our Western world have become slaves of democracy, not too different from slaves of authority. We embrace words "democracy" and "freedom" without necessarily understanding them. Look at what happened after we pushed for "democracy" in Libya, Iraq, and Syria – people lost their homes, and terrorist groups like ISIS rose to power. I think democracy doesn't mean people should resist the status quo, but instead they should decide whatever is better for their quality of life. Good luck HK and Macau

  9. There is no such people as "Chinese"…; Chinese Communist Party (CCP) used to say that there are over 56 totally different ethnic groups of people reside in Mainland Asia; however, during the Great Cultural Revolution in the 1960s, CCP forced ethnic cleansing and genocide to completely destroy most of the ethnic cultures, etc. Under CCP, the people are all told to think and behave in the same way via. CCP controlled education.
    South Korea also has different races; there are five (5) different ethnic groups of people reside there and they do look different BEFORE plastic surgery. According to South Korean gov't, 93% of women and over 75% of men had plastic surgery on their faces and bodies. Many Mainland Asians/Chinese also go to South Korean to get their faces and bodies changed these days.
    North Korea, on the other hand, is just so happened… all Goguryeo people… ethnically homogeneous. (ck it out)

  10. Actually I saw a radio interview… Did China need Hong Kong or Hong Kong need China…. The answer was so clear actually Hong Kong doesn't need China lol… I always keep wondering why China always want to take back their "land" if they want to take back, Myanmar, Vietnam, mongol why they don't take it back??? Because their economy is not as strong as Taiwan, hong Kong and macau. They just want their economically strong state… The state that Russia took over during ww2, china still dont give a damn about that, and licking the Russia ass…. Brain wash Chinese, please wake up!! CCP isn't any good either. When I tell my father about this, my father said actually a lot of mainland Chinese already talked about problem in China, but don't have the power to keep protest. We meet a lot of mainland Chinese who actually know the problem of CCP. But when I'm in YouTube, why I saw so many brainwashed idiot???? Who keep "protecting" the image of their nation when they not realizing they're actually destroying it!!!

  11. Perfect understanding of English. Yeah I agree china will not gonna crack down Macao until honkong problem is cracked down and settled ,which is way more threatening for the regime. I don't think either people in honking or in Macao will have courage to protest government within themselves until America must engage in and mobilize ' china spring ' . If china is going to civil war, America and Japan and Korea and every others would get benefits from it. American Intelligence should work and inside of china as they did in panama or Cuba or chille

  12. everyone in the upper government in Macao is either on casino business or real estate that's why nothing will change for the lower class here!!!

  13. Chris, you should dig up the Japanese organization that support pro-independent on Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau, Tibet. They have a meeting recently.

  14. All your effort only change minor issue, if you want total changed, you have to make war. And that the only way to change China the better way.

  15. had an ad pop up in the middle of this movie does it help China unsensored more if I let the add play as opposed to skipping it ????

  16. When everyone thought Hong Kong would get all the attention. Luckily our Hero, Chris, travels to the underdog known as Macau, and sheds some light on it. You had enough screentime Hong Kong.

  17. The OTHER China is Taiwan. Hong Kong is the OTHER OTHER China, so Macao should be the OTHER OTHER OTHER China. Know your Chinas, man!

  18. Macau is visibly being treated as the good boy SAR, receiving lots of tourists, having a high GDP per capita economy. The general consent is that this is happening in order to lure Hong Kong and Taiwan to behave well and willingly join China's rule, so that they will be well treated too. What people are falling to see is the midterm future. What will happen in thirty years, when Macau fully integrates the Chinese system? The current outrageous income and very low taxation of the average macanese citizen/company will no longer be possible, Macau will have to level with the rest of China, and its prosperity will be flushed down the toilet. Being pragmatically objective, the Macanese people are trading a few years of easy money and a rich-boy lifestyle with the future generations' liberties.

  19. I guess anyone whoever disagrees with this is considered to be a 50 cent troll. You might as well call me a 50 cent troll then lmao.

  20. Just FYI, Compare to today, 1990s Macau under portuguese rule is a complete shit. It does known for gamble and "casino", but it run by triad and yes corrupt gov official. Drug den and child prostitution use to be rampant there. Frankly, before the handover, comparing Hong kong and Macau is like comparing Great Britain and Portuguese. I don't think many people in macau care about "fight the power" since their life ARE getting better.

  21. Democracy is an American business these days. Now they've spotted another opportunity, Macao. Didn't they get enough opportunities in Middle East, or East Europe? Why do they keep them busy? Why bother, really? American needs other countries' revolutions like a vampire needs blood. They really stop at nothing to make one. I'd like to suggest they make one on their own land. How about blacks vs whites riots? They'd be fucking sensational.

  22. in fact, under China's one China two policies enables HK and Macau to become democratic states. Because what they didn't realize they were definitely very undemocratic as colonies of other countries. They should embrace the opportunity and works with the government instead of against it.

  23. If you let Communism ( no civil rights), have it's way ..you become a second class citizen in your own country.Usually without a passport.Then you either accept the pleb status, or, you become spare parts for those that do.

    Good luck Macao.

  24. bro can you make a video about the U.S occupation of Hawaii and American Samoa ?
    I know China is comunist and imperilistic but how about the U.S.?

    Just say'n

  25. that guy is really smart and aware what is happening around him! He knows what to look for and what is wrong currently, much better than his Hong Kong counterparts in their interviews.

  26. 如果你与你的口里认耶稣为主,相信在您的心脏,上帝叫他从死里复活,就必得救。 (罗马书10:9)

  27. Macau needs all the help it can get. Hong Kong is bigger and is more successful at maintaining its rights and freedoms, I think Macau needs a lot of people from Hong Kong to boost up it's democratic struggles as well as help from people from all over the world specially from Portuguese-speaking countries such as Portugal and Brazil.

  28. And religious freedoms will be respected. Perceived as weak may protect macau from crackdown by communist. But frog in slowly lukewarm boiling pot…..

  29. you should do some funny vedios, that 's enough. But if it is the policy, I think you should intervirw some guy much arthoritative and at least the guy should be titled as Professor. In my opinion this episode is boring. This guy can talk with you in the house and don't worried the missile comes from USA just like what happened in Irap.

  30. hi chris i am a fan of yours from bangladesh . is this ur account https://www.facebook.com/chris.chappell.35?fref=ts

  31. Their situation is essentially the same with the Philippines. Nobody cares at all and just continues to have a good time.

  32. This Chinese guy is clearing reciting a pre-write speech. Chris, Don't continue this type of video, please. Be Objective!!!

  33. Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Macau shouldn't and call themselves the real China. As a block they'll have more influence and power. Maybe working together they can push back or even reform China(communist)

  34. 中国共产党最喜欢的就是:你们随便去怎么乱搞,只要不来真的,最后都会无一例外对我们的统治起到促进作用

  35. If China makes trubble with Macau, Portugal will step in and kick some ass, same as we did in indonesia for east-Timor. We are all lusofonic Brothers and if we fight together, we shall never die!

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